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2befree 04-05-2007 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1caez01 (Post 5958)
I am intersted in the steps that you will take to get this "free" service.

1. what "service" are you going to use...is there an URL I can go to, to review it...
2. where are you going to get this "service" from...who is the carrier...
3. where does your logic come from that you are not going to have to "pay" for this service at some stage of the the actual usage/service...

I may be missing something...but at some point, the "free" sevice has to be payed for, by someone...businesses just don't operate any other way...

Don't forget, others read these missives on these fora and "we," you and I are guiding them through the jungle of possibilities, so we need to be clear and concice, and instructive...


1. what "service" are you going to use...is there an URL I can go to, to review it...
here's the URL: Make A Call

2. where are you going to get this "service" from...who is the carrier...
with Voip - Free Calls - Everything Voip. same link on #1

3. where does your logic come from that you are not going to have to "pay"
my logical thought that i dont have to pay anything came from the website. it sez there that VOIP CALLING IS FREE. unfortunately, its not unlimited. it only lets you call for at least 6 minutes. which is really not bad to check their QoS

I totally agree with you. everything has to be crystal clear. we're all in search for the best service around. there's nothing wrong with being cautious and concise to the steps we will take.

b1caez01 04-05-2007 04:45 PM

Please read the fine print...
 
This will be my last word on this subject...I am too suspicious...

"Cheap long distance calls..."
"Try it free..."
"Rate: US$0.02/minute"
"You have a balance of US$0.12 ... Sign up for more credit. "

That's one call for a limit of 6 minutes...not unlimited 6/min/max calls...then you must "sign up" for more credits...they do not say free credits...I tested this proceedure out...you can too... The obvious fact, is that they have introduced a money issue themsleves...think about it... why say it is free, and then talk money???

What are we missing here? Or is just me that thinks that this is not kosher?

>>... in one breath they say in bold letters...

"VOIP CALLING IS FREE

1. Enter your number.
2. Enter your friend's number.
3. We connect you. [<< so you must go through them not a free and open network]
4. You save tons." [<< how can I save "tons" if the call is free?]

>>...in the next breath they tell us that we will save money...money that we did not spend because it was free...we saved 75% in freedom???

"Voip calls save you 75% over normal long distance rates. You can use your normal cell phone or landline. No downloads, headsets or contracts required. Learn more.

DOWNLOADS

* Cheap mobile international calls: Voip from your cell phone."

I am going to end this thread on my part... I do not believe them, that anything is free...they refer to "money" words too frequently...OR...am I just hung up on the issue of reading the fine print!?

They appear to be just selling an introductory service...shop around. There are lots of companies out there that are trying to do the same thing.

VOIP is a process for communication, that depends on a lot of underpinning technology. Technology is not free. I believe they are trying to confuse issues: 1. the technology, and 2. the service, and 3. who is going to bear the costs of not only delivery...but all the infrastructure...and there may be more.

P/S...I read the "Terms of Service" ...I think that you should too...there is some interesting stuff there that should tweak your sensibilities...about the word "free." And you do not have to read too far to see that they refer to charges and the right to change them at their will...think about that...

I will shut up now! I am too old and cantankerous to be, in my humble opinion, fooled!

2befree 04-06-2007 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1caez01 (Post 5994)
This will be my last word on this subject...I am too suspicious...

"Cheap long distance calls..."
"Try it free..."
"Rate: US$0.02/minute"
"You have a balance of US$0.12 ... Sign up for more credit. "

That's one call for a limit of 6 minutes...not unlimited 6/min/max calls...then you must "sign up" for more credits...they do not say free credits...I tested this proceedure out...you can too... The obvious fact, is that they have introduced a money issue themsleves...think about it... why say it is free, and then talk money???

What are we missing here? Or is just me that thinks that this is not kosher?

>>... in one breath they say in bold letters...

"VOIP CALLING IS FREE

1. Enter your number.
2. Enter your friend's number.
3. We connect you. [<< so you must go through them not a free and open network]
4. You save tons." [<< how can I save "tons" if the call is free?]

>>...in the next breath they tell us that we will save money...money that we did not spend because it was free...we saved 75% in freedom???

"Voip calls save you 75% over normal long distance rates. You can use your normal cell phone or landline. No downloads, headsets or contracts required. Learn more.

DOWNLOADS

* Cheap mobile international calls: Voip from your cell phone."

I am going to end this thread on my part... I do not believe them, that anything is free...they refer to "money" words too frequently...OR...am I just hung up on the issue of reading the fine print!?

They appear to be just selling an introductory service...shop around. There are lots of companies out there that are trying to do the same thing.

VOIP is a process for communication, that depends on a lot of underpinning technology. Technology is not free. I believe they are trying to confuse issues: 1. the technology, and 2. the service, and 3. who is going to bear the costs of not only delivery...but all the infrastructure...and there may be more.

P/S...I read the "Terms of Service" ...I think that you should too...there is some interesting stuff there that should tweak your sensibilities...about the word "free." And you do not have to read too far to see that they refer to charges and the right to change them at their will...think about that...

I will shut up now! I am too old and cantankerous to be, in my humble opinion, fooled!

Just cool it.. I know where you're coming from. Of course I'll read all of the details before signing up for anything. I actually tried the beta thingie on the website and what happened was, my phone rang, I picked it up and they connected me to the person i wanted to talk to.

I think this service of voip.com would be really great for dial up users since you dont have to download anything or use your actual computer or your internet bandwidth to call anyone. It's really, really convenient.

And yes, I have to know the price of the service before getting their service. The thing is, it's the only VoIP provider that works this way. Using your regular phone to call another phone, computer or mobile at a much, much cheaper price.

Thank you for your views and opinions. Really appreciate it.

b1caez01 04-07-2007 04:17 AM

My Apologies ;(
 
I apologize for being so persistent. Your main premis, as I understood it, was that this was a free service. I was just trying to make the case for you and the other readers, that all may not be as it seems or as it is advertised on first read. Read the fine print...end of thread.

2befree 04-07-2007 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1caez01 (Post 6022)
I apologize for being so persistent. Your main premis, as I understood it, was that this was a free service. I was just trying to make the case for you and the other readers, that all may not be as it seems or as it is advertised on first read. Read the fine print...end of thread.

It's okay. No worries. :)

simplejordon 02-06-2008 07:22 AM

It will work with lots of breakups etc. Also, you will never be able to fax through a VoIP over dialup.


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