voip for dial up
 

hello everyone. i have tried using skype but it doesnt work with a slowww connection like mine. i would love to hear suggestions on what to do with this, is there a solution out there?

I have tried Skype and Yahoo voice chat on a dialup and there is really a big difference on the delivery and connection. It's just that most softwares available now for communication purposes were built on the 128 kbps connection benchmark. And I heard soon that the broadcasting companies will be dealing with a big problem (theveniceproject) like what most telecommunication companies experienced with skype.

You can upgrade to either a faster connection as it's the only way to really feel the VIOP advantage.

Indeed - VOIP wasn't really designed to cater for connections much slower than ISDN or even low-end Cable or DSL. It is possible to use some services on slower connections such as yours but the quality is generally poor and you won't find yourself being able to do much else with the line at the same time!

It's unfortunate as some areas are still limited to dialup, but that's just the way it is with technology I'm afraid.

there's a service called voip.com. You can call anywhere in the world for free right now. It's not pc to pc, but phone to phone, and you can use dial up. I think this is just what you're looking for. Check it out, and let me know if it works for you.

hey thanks for replying and suggesting. yeah, i'll try it out. and im going to tell you if voip.com works. hmmm i know VoIP isnt supposed to work on dial up but donedonedone, does voip.com work on dial up?

VOIP or HYPE
 

Keep in mind the old saying...what I am saying is not necessarily what you are hearing ;) there is a chasm between us...

At the computer level, the network between the input and the output has many competing factors to deal with... Try to imagine a network utilizing all the forms of delivery service trying to use the one communications-input-service -VOIP

...it is the same with software delivery over the net...what is leaving my system is going a mile a second, but what is entering your system is going a mile an hour...[or the reverse] the whole system suffers because EVERYONE is not playing the game with the same deck of cards...

Eventually, we will all have to be on one high speed delivery system, in the meantime, go slow on spending a lot for hype, over service...

Aim low, avoid disappointment ;)

i see. too bad i cant afford a broadband internet right now. now i understand why there are delays in our voices when im using skype. im about to try what everyone suggested though.

Perception is everything...
 

Hey, it's your dime ;) But remember, you may be driving a Ferrari, and the other guy may be driving a skateboard ...what's the point ...you're just wasting your money for another toy.

If you check out voip.com, you will see that you need a broadband service and then you would need to buy or rent one of their modems ...at least that is what it looks like to me ...so where's the savings? Again, your DSL or cable, is an excellent service, but if you are connecting to intermediary services that are not DSL or cable, then you are wasting your money! I am on cable, but when downloading stuff, nothing is ever the same...fast is fast, and slow is slow, no matter if I have cable or not.

A good analogy is when you are driving on the highway, and you see one of those big trucks that are car carriers... Those cars look pretty snazzy and fast, but they can't go any faster then the truck in their presented state ...then if the truck goes onto a ferry to get across a body of water...whoa ...snails pace!!! So, you have to wait until the car gets off the delivery sevices until you can get to access its full potential, then you are curbed by the laws of the land. You cannot just tear up and down the driveway, what's the point of owning the fancy wheels if you can't tear around the neighbourhood. It is really a game of parting you from your coins, not delivering you any faster services.

Nothing in life is free, or faster, or smoother, or...whatever... it is all about perception ;)

nice analogy with the cars and trucks and all! things seem a lot clearer now. they got free calls so might as well try out the QoS. :)

Just being nosey...
 

I am intersted in the steps that you will take to get this "free" service.

1. what "service" are you going to use...is there an URL I can go to, to review it...
2. where are you going to get this "service" from...who is the carrier...
3. where does your logic come from that you are not going to have to "pay" for this service at some stage of the the actual usage/service...

I may be missing something...but at some point, the "free" sevice has to be payed for, by someone...businesses just don't operate any other way...

Don't forget, others read these missives on these fora and "we," you and I are guiding them through the jungle of possibilities, so we need to be clear and concice, and instructive...

1. what "service" are you going to use...is there an URL I can go to, to review it...
here's the URL: Make A Call

2. where are you going to get this "service" from...who is the carrier...
with Voip - Free Calls - Everything Voip. same link on #1

3. where does your logic come from that you are not going to have to "pay"
my logical thought that i dont have to pay anything came from the website. it sez there that VOIP CALLING IS FREE. unfortunately, its not unlimited. it only lets you call for at least 6 minutes. which is really not bad to check their QoS

I totally agree with you. everything has to be crystal clear. we're all in search for the best service around. there's nothing wrong with being cautious and concise to the steps we will take.

Please read the fine print...
 

This will be my last word on this subject...I am too suspicious...

"Cheap long distance calls..."
"Try it free..."
"Rate: US$0.02/minute"
"You have a balance of US$0.12 ... Sign up for more credit. "

That's one call for a limit of 6 minutes...not unlimited 6/min/max calls...then you must "sign up" for more credits...they do not say free credits...I tested this proceedure out...you can too... The obvious fact, is that they have introduced a money issue themsleves...think about it... why say it is free, and then talk money???

What are we missing here? Or is just me that thinks that this is not kosher?

>>... in one breath they say in bold letters...

"VOIP CALLING IS FREE

1. Enter your number.
2. Enter your friend's number.
3. We connect you. [<< so you must go through them not a free and open network]
4. You save tons." [<< how can I save "tons" if the call is free?]

>>...in the next breath they tell us that we will save money...money that we did not spend because it was free...we saved 75% in freedom???

"Voip calls save you 75% over normal long distance rates. You can use your normal cell phone or landline. No downloads, headsets or contracts required. Learn more.

DOWNLOADS

* Cheap mobile international calls: Voip from your cell phone."

I am going to end this thread on my part... I do not believe them, that anything is free...they refer to "money" words too frequently...OR...am I just hung up on the issue of reading the fine print!?

They appear to be just selling an introductory service...shop around. There are lots of companies out there that are trying to do the same thing.

VOIP is a process for communication, that depends on a lot of underpinning technology. Technology is not free. I believe they are trying to confuse issues: 1. the technology, and 2. the service, and 3. who is going to bear the costs of not only delivery...but all the infrastructure...and there may be more.

P/S...I read the "Terms of Service" ...I think that you should too...there is some interesting stuff there that should tweak your sensibilities...about the word "free." And you do not have to read too far to see that they refer to charges and the right to change them at their will...think about that...

I will shut up now! I am too old and cantankerous to be, in my humble opinion, fooled!

Just cool it.. I know where you're coming from. Of course I'll read all of the details before signing up for anything. I actually tried the beta thingie on the website and what happened was, my phone rang, I picked it up and they connected me to the person i wanted to talk to.

I think this service of voip.com would be really great for dial up users since you dont have to download anything or use your actual computer or your internet bandwidth to call anyone. It's really, really convenient.

And yes, I have to know the price of the service before getting their service. The thing is, it's the only VoIP provider that works this way. Using your regular phone to call another phone, computer or mobile at a much, much cheaper price.

Thank you for your views and opinions. Really appreciate it.

My Apologies ;(
 

I apologize for being so persistent. Your main premis, as I understood it, was that this was a free service. I was just trying to make the case for you and the other readers, that all may not be as it seems or as it is advertised on first read. Read the fine print...end of thread.

It's okay. No worries. :)

It will work with lots of breakups etc. Also, you will never be able to fax through a VoIP over dialup.