How do you go about with the dual boot Vista/xp installation when you get the message that disk is not recognized at xp install time and the BIOS does not have an option for you to deactivate native SATA?

Daul boot nigthmares!
 

Some excellent tutorials here for Dual booting vista and XP when vista is the first OS. Finally got round all the raid issues that come with my Laptop, ie no recognition of HD during XP set up. Fixed that with nlite and Intel Matrix storage, but now we get the fun issue! My vista recovery disc has no option to repair from boot!!!! So after I installed XP and then went to repair the boot sequence so the computer recognising Vista and XP in the boot menu, all I managed to do was completely format and install Vista! Why is everything so rubbish?

Any ideas what I could do (and don't say buy a new copy of Vista!)?

Oh, I have had that, it's a nightmare! You have to create a bootable image of XP in which certain drivers are contained! You need nlite (free download) to make the image and burn it to disk, and you need the drivers from Intel Matrix Storage ..... something... Copy the drivers from the intel program once installed into the drivers addition section in nlite, (which ones?) well I did em all and it worked for me!!! Others have had other troubles there!!!

Good luck.

nLite is a greate program, i use it often. The drivers do not "have" to be on the disc, they can be loaded during the initialization of the install process, from another disc.

Right you are indeed! But you need to have a floppy drive attached if you're using Vista (as you know, I've read your tutorials and you clearly know almost everything! :icon_wink:

Maybe you can help me, I did everything you said, but my stupid recovery DVD doesn't allow to repair, format and reinstall only! (Total Rubbish eh?)

So guess what? I'm back to a single Vista! I will get my dual boot though, even if it kills me! Anyway, can I do the 'repairing' of the boot menu without using the DVD Vista install by using VistaBootloader or vistabootpro (something like that anyway)? What's your take on it?

I wasn't trying to be misleading earily by saying 'on a disc' I just understand that too many option often fries the brain!

ok, i installed xp into the partitioned hard drive, but now im stuck in it, my laptop came preinstalled with vista and i have no vista recovery disc, i downloaded the vista loader and installed it but when i choose to load vista or xp or system recovery it just loads xp, yes i checked to make sure the right drive was selected. any help please? sorry if im leaving out important information im new to this..

You need to boot XP (which happens auto) the download and install Vistabootpro. After that listen to this guy Install Windows XP in a Dual Boot with Pre-installed Windows Vista that's what I'm trying because I have a Vista recovery disc that can't repair! Only format install. It seems from the explanation that VistabootPRO can change the boot entries from the XP area. I hope:icon_neutral: I'm trying now!

i just got vista running but when i go into the boot menu and try to run xp it gives me a ntledr error, what do i do with this? am i screwed and do i just have to reinstall xp?



what i had done wrong in the vista boot pro is i had the wrong setting selected

I'm out of my depth here, have been all day. I suggest you copy that error and google it! Someone will have something useful to say on it. I'm sure you're not screwed though, just temporarily waylaid! I have heard of that error, can't say I know what it means. I'll google too and let's see what we get!

I googled and lots of people are talking about ntledr error, missing. Check them out....

yeah looks like something about the bios is missing, i also tried to install the drivers for my laptop on xp and it gave me a bios missing error

thanks for the help tali hopefully i can get this running correct!

Alex, it's 2.45 in the morning and I finally sussed it! In the end I had the same problem as you the nltr/ whatever the stupid letters were!! I kept fiddling until my eyes popped out! In the end let me tell you what did it: Vistabootpro allows you to manage your OSs, you can select the drives name them etc. Well I have Vista on C and I created D and put XP there. Vista worked fine, XP would only boot the first time after that I got that missing nt... message.... Well I kept playing, I tried different bootloader installs in Vistabootpro, got XP back once, but then no Vista! After that got Vista back no XP - error again. Well in the end in the OS manager part I selected C drive for both OSs, it seems that somehow the bootloaders for both OSs ended up on C even though XPs on D and Vista's on C. So setting XP to C even though it's actually on D works as that's where the bootloader is?!!!?!>!>!! My approach was not scientific, but I got there - try it! It must be because the VistabootPro is VISTA boot pro so is preferred that drive for la la la la lal..... no real idea actually.... William?

Anyway, what I want to do is go to bed, but I had to let you know as the formus help me so much, so what little I can give back (and believe me it's little) I will!

Tali

heh wow, i had already removed the partition and erased all the data, well im going to be re-installing xp tonight haha i hope it works, thanks!

sweet, that worked, now if only the drivers would install on my laptop, it keeps giving me a error that saying the bios aren't for the computer when i download the exact model and its from the manufacturer so i dont know whats going on, and without the drivers it makes xp pretty much useless

I had some similar trouble, I got to XP and all the hardware was dead because the drivers are embedded in the stupid recovery DVD rather than on a utilities disc. They are unaccessable! So what I did is this: I went to Toshiba (my laptop make) found the model and searched for drivers. I found options there to have drivers for Vista and XP. I have started downloading them and now most of my hardware is up and running. I am obviously going to save them and make my own utilities disc. I don't know if that helps you with your new issue, but I at least glad you're making progress!

Why these companies don't give you a machine on which you make the desicions about what you want rather than supporting one OS only I will never know. Obviously they only make computers for people who want to browse the net and play games, not for people who have bigger techno-ambitions.

My problems seem to be over-ish now, but let me know how you get on and if I can suggest anything, I will!

May the force be with us all!

Tali

How do I set the new parition for XP to drive E:?

And incase something goes wrong how do I acess my vista parition with all my data?

Change the driver letter in Vistabootpro in the OS management part. As for access, well whatever OS you're in you can access anything on the PC. When I'm XP I can even get to the Vista program files.

yeah i did the same thing but the drivers weren't available for xp, i installed all the drivers from the v6000 series and it works great, other than the graphics drivers which lags the screen and basically makes it un-usable, if anyone can help me find the driver for the nvidia go 6100 for xp that would be great, i googled it and downloaded a couple but they didn't work

Ok I have my main parition on Vista with all my stuff on it.

Then I create an allocated space of 20 gb I boot from the xp CD then I put in ME because I have update of XP Home.

Then it comes to the partitions and it only shows my vista partition.

Why is this? Why doesnt it show my unallocated space?

And It says I have 200 gb free on my hard drive. When I get to partition part it only shows I have 125gb free.

Maybe it doesnt show the partition becasue of xp upgrade?

And in partition 1 it says its like 13500 space and it says 13500 space free.

Do i click enter on partition 1? Or will I lose all my stuff? If i click enter wont i get a warning.

All help appreciated.

Success...so far...Question, tale of woe, warning!
 

First post! Great site, great tutorial, thank you much!

I picked my screen name because, despite quite a bit of experience (programming real-time at chip level in hex, coding in MATLAB, FORTRAN, LISP, build my own computers, etc) it seems I'm getting stale and every time I try something I end up in a mess!

I bought a box for the boss when his crashed during an office move. I was tied up and needed something quick, so just went to the local big box and picked up a machine with Vista Home Premium on it, intending to "downgrade" to XP as this was OK with Micro$oft. Long story short, ended up with Vista Ultimate and an unformated partition for XP so:

Thanks #1 for including the fact that this partition must be formatted BEFORE you start the XP setup. Another site left that little detail out, which caused much frustration!

Thanks #2 for having the QA right below so I could find that I had to get into the BIOS & disable SATA native mode for XP to see the formatted partition. That solved the "Your computer has been stopped..." BSOD that I was getting.

Problem #1 - now install was going, but as install proceeded (and I was typing this) something locked up, so I'm now using XP cd's recovery console to reformat the partition. Note too, that although I'd used Vista's disk manager to format the partition and designate the drive letter as "D:", XP Setup detected it as "H:" (Volume name was the one I'd given it).

Question #1: (Background) We'd always, prior to XP, used two physical drives or at least two partitions in our machines, with Windows and the programs on C: and all our docs/data on D: Then with XP we were stuck with the "Documents and Settings" folder for the user hives even if we pointed the "My Documents" folder to the D: drive. I eventually found a way to move the user hives to D: (not for the faint of heart, mind you!), but it's a lot easier to just say where you want it on install. (Q) But how does one run winnt.exe or win32.exe in unattended mode, with an Unattended.txt file having the desired drive:\directory entry, when you're installing from the CD? Off-topic to be sure, but whilst I'm here...

Helpful Hint: After I raised holy cain, my manufacturer responded with a complete list of where I could get XP drivers for my machine. I'm with the soul who posted that the computer manufacturer should support you using any operating system you fiddly well please, just because they pre-install an operating system shouldn't lock you into that forever, at the very least among teh Windows flavors. Supposedly, the major manufacturers are supporting XP downgrades, as they bloody well ought to. But you may have to push pretty hard.

Best to all,

DangerousTom

XP won't run after 1st reboot
 

WRT to my first post above: Got the XP setup to complete, and the computer rebooted to run Windows XP and complete the setup (BTW, this is an XP Pro, SP2 CD). But all I get is a black screen with a blinkin underscore cursor in the upper left corner a couple of "lines" down.

Hoo boy...:confused:

How would you go about with the dual boot Vista/xp installation when you get the message that disk is not recognized at xp install time and the BIOS does not have an option for you to deactivate native SATA? This is on an HP Pavilion dv9580ez.

Gswiss:

Mine didn't say that explicitly. I made two changes:

- Set "SATA1 Controller Mode" to "IDE" (it had been "RAID" which I don't understand, there's only one drive in this thing...)

-Set "ATA Emulation" to "Combined Mode" (was "Enhanced").

It's a Phoenix BIOS, this is an HP machine also, so I hope you have the same options. Perhaps someone smarter'n'me can comment on the signifigcance of thsoe two settings, but the help seemed to indicate that the settings were more fitting to the hardware at XP's original time frame.

Also, after making these cahnges to the BIOS, I had to go back into Vista and reboot a couple of times (juest for good measure). Vista installed drivers for the "dumbed down" SATA drive, and when I went back to XP it ran. I'm loading drivers and software on the machine this AM.

Best to you,

Dangerous Tom

Problem with installing XP onto Vista
 

Hello there, I recently brought a new PC, with Vista pre-installed, and as I were unable to run certain programs on Vista which I had been able to run on XP, I decided that I would attempt a dual boot.
I read this article and got to stage 2..where I hit a problem :confused:


With the XP (professional) disk inserted into the drive, I start up my PC, and tell it i want to boot from disk.

It starts the XP setup, and states that 'Setup is loading files'. It gets as far as 'SCSI Port Driver' and then comes up with the following error message...

''File cpqarray.sys caused an unexpected error [32768] at line 3514 in d:\xpclient\base\boot\setup.c.''

''Press any key to continue...setup failed...reboot...''

I've attempted this several times- and still no more progress.
It shouldn't be anything wrong with the disk because It has been used in the past with success.

I'd be grateful if anyone could please help me as I've ran out of ideas :icon_question:

Thanks, Luke

Thank you for your reply. I am late in answering you because it's only today that I got a notification message from the Syschat server. The BIOS is very stingy on parameters. I finally got around this problem by storing the Disk Controller driver on a diskette and providing it through the F6 procedure at XP installation time with a USB diskette reader.

Maybe this site can be of help to you: IASTOR.SYS ERROR DURING RIS SETUP

Need help
 

I'll just start off with saying that I am a noob when it comes to computers, I only know enough to get me around, but I recently bought a Asus laptop with Vista pre-installed and once I realized that some programs wouldn't work with Vista I decided I wanted to try and dual boot with XP but I only have the recovery disk and am wondering if I can get around needing the Install disk. I noticed a few people had/have the same problem but I didn't see and responses or solutions given.. I have two drives ( C: & D: ) Vista being on the C: drive. Thanks in advance

so what was the solution to this... because I have the same problem

Problems Pc will not come back to Vista
 

Some time ago I made dual boot to my Dell XPS M1210 with Vista Premium installed. Everything went straight on.
Today I tried to do the same to my doughters pc, acer Asoire 5610Z, with Vista Basic.

It had D partition, so I just started to install XP Professional to D. Everything went ok, but when I should do step 3, I missed and hit the Startup Repair button. After that I have not managed to get the pc back to Vista. I have tried to continue with the commands in "Command prompt". When I type the Bootrec.exe/fixMBR , the answer is "Operation suceeded" (translated from Norwegian OS). When I type the command

X:\Sources)Bootrec.exe/fixBoot

I get answer:
"Volumet inneholder ikke et kjent filsystem.
Kontroller at alle de nødvendige filsystemdriverne er lastet inn, og at volumet ikke er skadet."
Translated to english is something like:
"The volum do not have any known file system. Control that all necessary filsystemdrivers are loaded, and that the volum is not corrupt."

Can anyone help?

Dual Boot
 

I am having problems with step four of the dual boot process. it is not working for me. i even copied and pasted but still no luck. any suggestions?

That's probably because the XP Repair function overrid the Vista MBR. In the attached document, go to the part called "Restoring Vista and dual booting". With EasyBCD (freeware), you can reinstate the dual boot function on your pc. Note that Net Framework version 2.0 at least is required to run EasyBCD.

Without details, it is difficult to assist you. How far did you go in step 4? What error message are you getting?

Hi, I have the same problem. My partitions are 100GB for Vista (C:) and 100GB for XP (X:). After the file copying portion of the XP installation, when the PC restarts, a black screen saying "Error loading Operating System" appears.

I tried several times form scratch but had no success. If I install XP on the first partition it install fine.

Is there a relation with the partition size?

Thanks for helping.

Depa.

This is the error message I get when trying to use the bcdedit.

"an error occurred while attempting to reference the specified entry.
the system cannot find the file specified."

Are you sure you have a complete Vista disc, and not an upgrade disc? Some versions supplied by -i will leave unnamed- companies are not complete install discs and happen to omit more than they should.

Nice guide there, only problem, my computer messed up.
Explanation:
When windows xp installation restarts to finish the installation, it said error loading operating system, like another guy on page 14 on the thread.
So I fixed the vista boot with the command prompt in the install disc, bootrec.exe /fixmbr and /fixboot. BUT! When vista is going to load the screen stays black, nothing. Ctrl+alt+del and it restarts, shows the safe mode or start windows normally menu, and when I choose safe mode it loads drivers and stay there like it bugged saying please wait, ctrl+alt+del restarts it also.
I need your help! I'm no noob to comps but this is ridiculous.
Also, my windows xp install disc won't even load now, makes the black screen, same bug!
My guess is that vista tries to boot with the X: partition instead of the C:.
But how can I use diskpart to reformat this partition and extend C: to bring it back to normal and repair that stupid boot?

Successfull Dual Boot - An update
 

Great "how-to" William,

Just thought I'd make a quick post that the proceedure works very well. There seem to be a preponderance of posts from those who had, or are still having, problems.

The proceedure was not without hiccups, the bootrec.exe steps failed for me, but an alternative solution was found. Suffice it to say the boot manager DOES need to be fixed for the computer to boot back into Vista and to finally dual boot. There are other posts in this thread that explain how this can be done.

As far as the "full Vista install" dvd that some are asking about - this is needed in William's explaination to fix the boot manager - the notebook that I installed a dual boot on was supplied with a "Windows Anytime Upgrade" dvd. This can be used to perform the "Repair your computer" step 3.

I know that HP and Toshiba do not supply this dvd with their consumer notebooks, I am glad that I purchased a "cheaper" model to do my dual boot!

This is just to encourage those who have tried and failed to get the dual boot to work - it does!!!!! and I am a happy bunny.
Martin

Well I still can't get Vista to load again even with the boot repaired.
Just a black screen after I select boot normally or safe mode (bugs).

Anyway with some messing around I found out that my windows xp somehow decided to install on the wrong partition even though I'm willing to bet my life that I made no errors.
Can someone at least please tell me how to copy an entire folder and its subfolders to another directory? I tried xcopy and robocopy but it seems I get it wrong.

EDIT: Ok I found out robocopy "folder" "destination" /e

Now I'll just have to format and reinstall, ah thank you jesus :icon_neutral:

I backuped my things and I'm trying to reinstall vista, problem after the install, when it reboots it a blinking cursor on a black screen stays there and does nothing (right after the post).
I formatted my drive and did everything I could but VISTA JUST WON'T INSTALL. IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY I'VE BEEN WASTING MY TIME FOR 2 DAYS!