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Steve O'Reno 07-26-2007 10:33 AM

Dual boot of XP with Vista already installed
 
:) Dear William:

This is exactly the info I needed! A big THANK YOU! I do have a couple of questions, before I proceed with the XP installation.

In Section 4, Since I am installing XP on a separate drive (D) as opposed to partitioning C, Under "Windows Legacy OS Loader", should it read... "partition = D:" instead of "partition = C:" ?

I don't know if I had mentioned this but, This computer is a new Gateway and will need some XP drivers. I went to the Gateway support site and entered my model and serial number to which it displayed the XP drivers that I will need for my specific unit. There are a couple of Motherboard drivers. One is... Intel VIIV Driver version 1 5 1 188 50... and another is Intel Quick Resume Driver version 1 52 1031. There is also a Intel chipset for a specific brand of Motherboard ... Intel Chipset Driver for Mickelson Trail Motherboard Version 8 0 0 101. Lastly, a Network Driver version 9 4 17 0.

Do I need to install these and at what point? If I do the XP driver installation in Vista, will they override the Vista drivers and cause any problems?

The last concern is... My Vista installation disc is the Gateway "Operating System Disc". Will this work the same as if it was a Vista installation disc purchased from a retailer?

Thank's again,
Steve O'Reno

Confuzzled 07-26-2007 02:10 PM

Please Help!
 
Boss purchased new computer pre-loaded with Vista Home Basic. Trying to dual-boot with old XP Home drive from their old computer. Keep running into problems.

Going to try an "over-install" trying to repair windows xp with the new drivers and such for the new hardware. Would love to plug and play the drive but I hear Vista doesn't like to play nice.

Can anyone please give me some hints? The Vista drive is a serial drive and the xp drive is an ide drive. Computer recognizes XP drive as Ch 0 and Vista drive as Ch 2.

Edit:

I am first trying the repair method. It is recognizing the "old" version of windows on c: unless the "old" version is actually vista version which would suck because I've already factory restored once after doing all updates and deleting all factory crap (vista)

Edit:

That didn't work. Got 100% done and it said it couldn't do it. grrr

Striker81 07-29-2007 11:25 AM

Installing Windows XP on a "Vista Computer"
 
Yes I was thinking of "attempting" to dual boot my Acer Notebook, I already partitioned 24 gigs and called it Windows XP though I may never it get it on there and I have Easy BCD if that helps. I was wondering will this work or not. I've heard alot of horror stories, ata hard drive problems and bios and blue screens of death also then having to make slipstream sp2 discs, it sounds kinda scary, I'm thinking it's alot easier to go from Windows XP to Vista obviously. The fact that also... what if the company didn't give you the Vista disc?. How can I boot up with it? Well, William Wilson makes me want to attempt it. I just was wondering if I should try to get all the Windows XP drivers so I don't mess anything up. Also exactly where and what drivers to get should I try to get, in the device manager it doesn't really make it easy to tell you which one is your bios and which one is your motherboard driver. I'm pretty good with comps if I take my time with them, I'm just not as familar with bios, I'm pretty good with almost everything else with computers, just not the beginning internal workings of them. Or even if it would be easier to format Vista and install Windows XP fresh somehow if that would be easier if I had all the XP drivers which I hear makes installing Vista alot easier if you wanted Vista on your computer after but I don't need it, but what if you don't have the Vista CD haha. This is kinda a nightmare scenario, it's a Acer Notebook 5680-6798. I guess if I knew what I needed all ahead of time and where exactly to find all the Windows XP drivers... etc like I said in Device Manager it's kinda hard to know where to find information on the comp and what is your bios and motherboard in device manager. I just think alot of the Vista computer is integrated for Vista and well, I don't know if it's made for XP, though I think I know what sits mostly under it... just that's my scenario. Any help would be great, thanks. I'm just saying I don't need Vista around, I can easily format this if I have to. I'm sure I saw an ATA (SATA?) drive in the device manager.....

Adam

Unregistered 07-29-2007 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 7083)
Hello All,
A really useful and informative site

In Page 2 The procedure is to use the Vista CD, But the HP notebook I bought only came with a recovery CD for Vista, can I boot from this recovery DVD? and then proceed to repair volume as outlined? Thanks in advance

I have the same problem... I only have recovery CD for Vista, should I recovery all the files? I think it's like formating the partition again...

and when I take the recovery cd, the both OS (Vista and XP) dont work, it wont load at all... what should I do??

thanks

Unregistered 07-30-2007 05:34 PM

NO Vista please.
 
I'm about to buy an HP Pavilion DV6575us with Vista pre-installed. Instead of doing the dual boot thing, I want to wipe Vista completely and just run the machine with XP. I'm going to boot from XP and reformat the entire drive, thus getting rid of Vista as well as all those crap programs that HP loads on. Does anyone think I'll have a problem with this tactic?

Thanks in advance.


Pat

PITU 07-31-2007 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 7641)
I'm about to buy an HP Pavilion DV6575us with Vista pre-installed. Instead of doing the dual boot thing, I want to wipe Vista completely and just run the machine with XP. I'm going to boot from XP and reformat the entire drive, thus getting rid of Vista as well as all those crap programs that HP loads on. Does anyone think I'll have a problem with this tactic?

Thanks in advance.


Pat


If you go to the HP website and make sure that the drivers for the model laptop are available for Windows XP, then you should be just fine. This is crucial! Do not install XP only to find that there are no drivers available. Just search for "DV6575us drivers for Windows XP" on the HP site. If there are sound, wireless, graphics card, and other drivers free to download for your HP laptop, then I would download all of them, burn them onto a disc, install XP, and then once XP is on, load the drivers from the disc and install them. Unfortunately, if there are no drivers available, then XP cannot be used on the computer.

William_Wilson 07-31-2007 06:35 PM

If there are drivers for Vista, then there are XP compatible versions as well. As long as XP detects your hard drive (if SATA) you will have no problems with the install, if it does not, you will need to use a supplied cd or make your own with the SATA drivers on it, and load them before starting the install.

Unregistered 08-01-2007 05:07 AM

Hope you can help with a little problem i have,

I had XP Home installed on my Hard disk (drive 0 master) i then installed Vista Home Premium with a Vista Upgrade cd on another Hard disk (drive 3 master)

when i booted it said 'do you want to load earlier versions or vista' to which i could select XP Home or Vista

It worked fine but after deciding not to use XP anymore i deleted the partition and formatted drive 0 (XP Home) **BIG MISTAKE**

Now when i boot it just says Disk Boot Error, insert boot disk **blah blah**

I have setting the boot sequence to go straight to disk 3 (Vista) but no joy

So im assuming i have deleted the boot manager of some sort, i know that XP uses the boot.ini but i read somewhere that Vista doesn't.

The question i am asking is "Can i reset the boot manager so it knows where my vista is installed without having to do a re-install?

* i have tried booting off Vista DVD and repair option, cant do system restore as i turned it off

Appreciate any help on this

Thanks

DMB1991 08-01-2007 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMB1991 (Post 7124)
Hey, I'm a total newbie; I'm not sure if another poster was asking about this or something else. I have a recovery partition (D) that is labeled as a primary partition. Should I delete that to make this process work?

Also a friend was telling me that XP does not support native SATA and would probably not install well. Any idea what he was talking about?

Thanks in advance!

Hey William, my machine has been running fine for a while now. However, is there any way this setup could affect POST? I'm trying to add another 2 GB of ram (Dual channel DDR2). Unfortunetly, the monitor doesn't get signal even though the system boots on, and detects when the new ram is taken out. I know the ram is not defective and it's the correct type for my board.

Either the bios needs an update (and I can't find one for the D945GCF G1 motherboard) or the motherboard is bad, or this setup has done something odd. It's probably my motherboard, but I thought I'd ask before I send it in for service.

Again, thanks in advance!

Stuck On Three 08-02-2007 12:59 AM

One of two operations is successful...
 
William,

I'm stuck on Step 3. Typing in Bootrec.exe /fixMBR in the Command Prompt will prompt the successful operation message. But when I do the next line '/fixBoot' it gives me an error message stating that "The Volume does not contain a recognizable file system." This is all from the X:Sources so I'm at a lost to figure out how to correct this problem.


Thanks as always!

Unregistered 08-02-2007 09:07 AM

no harddrive found
 
i partitioned and formatted as NTFS, but when i start to install windowsXP it says something about not finding a hard drive.

btw i have a gateway MT6840 notebook

came with windows vista home premium

thanks in advance

Unregistered 08-03-2007 05:59 AM

Savage
 
I'm having the same problem, it's incredibly frustrating, the previously suggested solution didn't do much to help, how might I go about fixing this?

Oh, and cheers for the awesome guide by the by.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered - JimR (Post 7565)
I've read all the posts regarding this dual boot issue, but your quoted post particularly caught my attention, as I too had read that XP would need extra drivers, and would not install without them onto an SATA drive. Here is where I am at (not unlike a lot of others here it appears):

1) I have a new Dell with Pre-installed Vista Premium, trying to dual boot with XP Home.
2) Used Vista to partition the C: drive, created an F: drive about 10Gbs (probably more than necessary, not sure, as I do plan on installing some programs that won't run in Vista). I'm not sure, will check later, but think my new F is a Primary Drive.
3) Inserted my XP install CD, rebooted, F12, and it got to the screen than asked to which partition I wanted to use.
4) The only partition listed was c: partition 1(unknown)
5) The new F: partition does not show up. I F3 and fume..... I spent ALL day yesterday futsing around with one issue or another... all a waste thus far.

6) I installed an external Seatgate via eSATA and tried to install on this.
7) Step 3 again, never got to step 4 above. Blue screen with suggestion I remove any new drives I might have installed, or check for viruses.

Back to square one.

I removed my new external drive I tried the F: drive route again. Same ugly results, no option except the c: drive.

I see that a few others here are having no problem actually getting XP installed (unlike me) but that getting the the PC to see both OS as a dual boot is the issue. I'll deal with that later if I can just get past my install problem.

Question:

1) Should my new F: partition show up as F: on my XP install? Or is the C: partition 1 (unknown) actually the F: partition in reality, just showing up as C:?

I'm afraid to proceed as I don't want to wipe out all the Vista, including the Restore D: partition which came with my Dell in case of a dire emergency.

2) Any suggestions of where I might go from here?

Thanks for your help.


Unregistered 08-03-2007 05:42 PM

\ntldr error
 
Hi there,

After trawling some forums and attempting to setup this dual boot i appear to be coming across the same error as many others. Unfortunately having followed all of your instructions i have still getting the \ntldr error when trying to boot XP.

Currently my bcdedit looks as follows. Whilst there are some small variations which may be preventing XP from loading i have completed all the steps you have describe and they have all come back succesful including the command lines in step 4.

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=C:
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
displayorder {current}
{ntldr}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Microsoft Windows Vista
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {007313d3-4207-11dc-b58a-806e6f6e6963}

Windows Legacy OS Loader
------------------------
identifier {ntldr}
device partition=C:
path \ntldr
description Microsoft Windows XP

Currently i have the following setup:

Vista on C:\ (75gb HD)
XP on E:\ (seperate 75gb HD)
and then two 350gb HD's with other bits on them.

I can load into vista fine and when i change the bios i can boot straight into XP because they are on seperate Hard Drives but the dual boot just isnt working. I get the error as mentioned by many when trying to boot into XP.

File: \ntldr
Status: 0xc000000e

I have tried EasyBCD 1.6 but i get the same error. I have also tried copying ntldr and ntcommand.com (or something like that) to the root on C:\ drive which gets me past the error message when trying to boot xp but the system then just hangs permanently.

Any help on this would be really great.

M.Knowles

dibby44 08-04-2007 04:17 PM

Dual Boot with Vista OEM
 
I have a pc with Vista Home Premium OEM pre-installed [and no CD coz it seems to be 3Gb+ in size]. For 2 specific reasons, I wish to dual-boot with Windows 2000 Professional for which I have the CD. I have followed page 1 [of 4] and successfully partitioned the C:\ drive, but, at the foot of Page 2, you say [after loading XP] re-boot with your Vista CD in place. Is there a workaround if there is no Vista CD, or, if I have installed W2k in the partitioned section, will the pc auto-load Vista and present the same options?

Thanks and regards
Dave Brownstone
Hove
England

brotherswami 08-13-2007 03:21 PM

Solving dual boot issues
 
William,
I want to express my sincere thanks for this helpful tutorial on dual boot vista and XP. I struggled an entire day to get it to work, but just like Kishore on this forum, my efforts were in vain. Then I followed your advice, VOILA! it finally worked. I appreciate your gesture to take the time to give guidance to folks like me solve their computer issues. You are amazing!!

Many Thanks,
Swami :)

Unregistered 08-14-2007 06:43 PM

Issue with installing
 
I'm freaking out over this, I have my old XP installer disk but my Acer is not letting me boot from it, and above that I try to use the installer and that wont work either please help email [email protected]

Unregistered 08-15-2007 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuck On Three (Post 7661)
William,

I'm stuck on Step 3. Typing in Bootrec.exe /fixMBR in the Command Prompt will prompt the successful operation message. But when I do the next line '/fixBoot' it gives me an error message stating that "The Volume does not contain a recognizable file system." This is all from the X:Sources so I'm at a lost to figure out how to correct this problem.


Thanks as always!


Exactly same problem here. Please help!

Unregistered 08-16-2007 08:18 AM

I set up my daul boot according to your directions. We had a problem with loading XP. We had to go into the bios and turn off the Raid Disk controller.
Then we got it all loaded and comming up right on rebooting. But when we tryed to boot to XP it locked up before loading. What we found out if I went in Bios and shut off the Raid controller Xp would load but then Vista wouldn't load. So you have to go to Bios and switch Raid depending on which OPS you want to run.
Does anyone know of a cure for this I would appreacate the help
Thanks

seas54 08-20-2007 10:50 AM

Dual Boot Vista and XP with Vista already installed
 
Thanks Much!!!
I will try this. Once XP is installed what would happen if vista was removed?
I am very tkankful you took the time to explain all this to me. I have been searching and did find a file to install XP but the readme is hard to understand. Would you mind if I send you the readme, PM and let you take a look?
Bruce

Unregistered 08-20-2007 02:01 PM

Hi,

Thanks for the tutorial. I've spent most of the last 3 days trying to get this working and reading related sites. I bough a HP Pavilion a1740n with Vista Home Premium pre-installed. I have Vista recovery disks (not install) and XP Media Center disks (install).

Creating a second partition was easy. The first issue I ran into was not being able to boot to the XP CD (would make it to the "Starting up Windows..." message on the XP install until getting BSOD). From reading online, I assumed it was the SATA Raid native support issue, so I changed SATA Mode in the BIOS to "IDE" and made a floppy with SATA Raid drivers that I could install along with XP using F6. This got me past it and up to the XP loading screen, but.. I'd get another BSOD right before the 2nd part of the XP install.

So, now I was stuck trying to boot onto the XP drive without the OS installed (vista wouldn't boot). I booted off the Vista recovery disk. I tried the Startup Recovery in the advanced options. While it didn't seem to work, when I restarted I got the option to boot from:

HP recovery
Microsoft Windows Vista (recovered)
Windows XP

The recovery worked and I started over using this method (in the comments from http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp):

The following method has been working for me to add an XP boot to an existing Vista. It has the advantages of not needing to repair the Vista boot AND of having the XP system drive installed as C:

1. Create the available space as described in the article

2. Using Disk Manager from Vista, create a new partition in that unallocated space -- don't use the XP install to do that.

3. Still in Disk Manager, set that new partition as Active. WARNING: That means that the machine will now be trying to boot from the empty partition. That's OK because the next thing you're going to do is install XP from a bootable CD. If you restart and then change your mind, you'll have to have some bootable utility to change the active partition again.

4. Boot from the XP installation CD and start the install. When you get to the step where you select the XP partition, you'll notice that your new target partition is C! That's because the active partition is always assigned that letter at this point. So your new partition will show as C and the existing Vista will show up as some other letter. So XP WILL be installed as C. Vista will remain C, too. Finish the install.

5. Once XP is running, copy NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM, and BOOT.ini from the XP partition to the Vista partition. This is required because the Vista partition will soon be the boot partition again .

6. Still from XP, use Disk Manager to change the Active partition back to the original Vista partition. The Vista partition's letter will show up as something other than C, doesn't matter, it will be C when booting Vista. Since the XP install never touched the Vista partition, NO repair is needed -- reboot and Vista will startup again.

7. Use EasyBCP as described to add the XP boot.

I can vouch from experience that this works very well. In fact you can have any number of Windows OSes all running as C using this method. You can also adjust drive letters using the HKLM/System/MountedDevices registry key. I've used this method to have 5 or 10 OSes installed in different partitions all at one time, and to restore various images to any partition and then fix the drive letters.

------

Now I have both OSs installed, and the dual boot option comes up when I restart. Unfortunately, I can only get one OS to load at a time. After I installed XP, I couldn't boot Vista unless I used the recovery disk. When I use the recovery disk and use the "Install vista bootloader" option in EasyBCD, Vista loads fine, but XP won't load.

My bcdedit looks very similar to:

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=C:
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
displayorder {current}
{ntldr}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Microsoft Windows Vista
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {007313d3-4207-11dc-b58a-806e6f6e6963}

Windows Legacy OS Loader
------------------------
identifier {ntldr}
device partition=E:
path \ntldr
description Microsoft Windows XP


Do I need to change the XP partition to C:/?
What should the boot.ini file look like?
Do I need to toggle SATA Mode between RAID and IDE depdning on which OS I want to load?

Thanks!

seas54 08-20-2007 05:25 PM

Dual Boot Vista and XP with Vista already installed
 
Xp will not install. when the computer reboots I get a blue screen with a PCI.SYS Error. At one point I got a error message telling me XP was not compatable with the system.
Bruce

William_Wilson 08-21-2007 10:54 AM

if XP is not compatable, you will need to post your system's specs so that we may determine the issue, and hopefully the solution.

seas54 08-21-2007 12:06 PM

Dual Boot Vista and XP with Vista already installed
 
Hi,
Here are the specs for the E-Machine. I believe it is a clone from Gateway cause Intel has no listing for this board and the E-Machine company sends me to the gateway site for updated drivers.

Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic

CPU: Intel® Celeron® D Processor 356
64-bit processor with Intel® EM64T Technology
(3.33GHz, 533MHz FSB, 512KB L2 cache)
Chipset: Intel® 945G
Memory: 512MB DDR2 dual channel capable (1 × 512MB), 533MHz (PC4200)
Expandable to 2GB
2 DDR2 Slots (Total) | 1 DDR2 Slot (Available)
Hard Drive: 120GB SATA II (7200rpm)
Optical Drive: CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
48x max. write (48×32×48×16)
Video: Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950
Up to 224MB of shared video memory
PCI-Express® (PCI-E x16) slot available
Sound: 6-channel (5.1) high-definition audio
Amplified Stereo Speakers (USB Powered)
Communications: 56K ITU V.92-ready fax/modem (RJ-11 port)
Intel® 10/100Mbps Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 port)
Peripherals: Multifunction keyboard, 2-button wheel mouse (PS/2)
Ports/Other: 6 - USB 2.0 ports (2 in front, 4 in back)
1 - VGA
1 - Parallel port
1 - Serial port
2 - PS/2 ports (keyboard and mouse)
3 - Audio (Rear): Line-in/Side (Stereo), Front/Headphone (Stereo), Microphone
2 - Audio (Front): Microphone, Front/Headphone (Stereo)
1 - RJ-45 Ethernet port
1 - RJ-11 Modem port

I have a readme file that explains how to install XP on this machine but I am having trouble following it. I have to doctor up the I386 folder and add files and commands and I am not getting them right.
I have the extracted files mentioned: The folder is called infinst_autol. In this folder are 4 folders ( All, Lang, Vista, x64) and 5 files ( difxapi.dll, Help, INF2, readme, Setup).

************************************************** **********
* 8B. INSTALLING THE WINDOWS* XP INF FILES PRIOR TO
* OS INSTALLATION
************************************************** **********
NOTE: The Windows* XP OEM Preload Kit distribution CD contains
a setup directory with all the base operating system
setup files and installation programs (WINNT.EXE and
WINNT32.EXE).

The name of the directory may vary depending on the
distribution CD (e.g., \I386\).

1. Create the following directory structure under the
<WINXP Setup Directory>:

\$OEM$\$$\INF

2. Copy the Windows* XP INF files from
<INF Extract Directory>\XXXX\All to the directory
created in Step 1 above:

<WINXP Setup Directory>\$OEM$\$$\INF

NOTE: XXXX is the directory name for the chipset of
interest. Refer to Section 8 for more details.

3. Create the following directory structure under the
<WINXP Setup Directory>:

\$OEM$\$1\drivers\IntelINF

4. Copy the Windows* XP INF files AND the catalog files
(.CAT) from <INF Extract Directory>\XXXX\All to the
directory created in Step 4 above:

<WINXP Setup Directory>\$OEM$\$1\drivers\IntelINF

NOTE: XXXX is the directory name for the chipset of
interest. Refer to Section 8 for more details.

5. Either modify the default Windows* XP installation
answer file, UNATTEND.TXT, located in <WINXP Setup
Directory>, or create a customized answer file. The
answer file must include the following information:

[Unattended]
OemPreinstall = Yes
OemPnPDriversPath="drivers\IntelINF"

A sample answer file for preloading the Intel(R) Chipset
Device Software files is available:
<INF Extract Directory>\XXXX\All\INFAnswr.TXT

If you are a computer manufacturer, refer to the Microsoft*
Windows* XP Guide to Unattended Setup for more information
about Windows* XP answer files and unattended installations.
For more information about the \$OEM$ folder, refer to the
Microsoft Windows* XP OEM Preinstallation Kit (OPK)
User Guide. If you are not a manufacturer, refer to the Microsoft
Windows* XP Deployment Guide.

6. Run "WINNT.EXE /u:<answer file name> /s:<WINXP Setup
Directory>" to install Windows* XP.

What goes where the /u: and s: are?

Thank You for the time you are taking to help me here. This has been a pain for 2 weeks now.
Bruce.

William_Wilson 08-21-2007 12:55 PM

you do not need to modify your i386 folder to install, all this is for is to do an unattended installation, simply install it from the cd or copy the i386 folder to your hard drive and it should work find as is... you will need to add information as you go along, but at least it will work.

the /u and /s are tags, and are correct as is.

seas54 08-21-2007 03:17 PM

Installing XP only.
 
I am trying to install Windows XP only. I have fdisked the hard drive into 2 drives, fat32. When I run winnt.exe from the I386 folder on cd the computer copies files, says to remove floppy and press enter. I press enter, (no floppy) and when the computer reboots says press F2 or F6 then comes up with:

A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

If this is the first time you've seen this stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again follow these steps:

Check to be sure you have adaquate disk space. If a driver is identified in the stop message disable it or check with the manufacturer for updates, try changing video adapters.

Check with your hardware vendor for any BIOS updates. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing. If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable componets, restart your computer, press F8 to select advanced startup options and then select safe node.

Techinical Information:
STOP: 0x0000007e (0xc0000005, 0xf854aobf, 0xf8996208, 0xf8995f08)
PCI.SYS - Address f854a0bf base at f8543000, datestamp 3b7d855c

This is the blue screen I get.
Thank You
Bruce.

William_Wilson 08-22-2007 11:10 AM

why aren't you using the cd to install? did you make the partition active?

seas54 08-23-2007 01:59 PM

Dual Boot Vista and XP with Vista already installed
 
Hi
Yes I made the partion c active. I also installed an A floppy drive and installed XP using the 6 install floppies and the CD also. I keep getting the SYS.PCI Error. It makes me feel that error is telling me that since XP is older than this new E-Machine and the machine was built to run Vista, XP needs the driver(s) for the the machine. Like I say, I want to have only XP on this machine, no Vista.
Thanks..
Bruce

William_Wilson 08-23-2007 04:34 PM

so vista is not on your C drive?
is this a lapop? if not are your drives sata drives?

seas54 08-23-2007 06:08 PM

Dual Boot Vista and XP with Vista already installed
 
Hi,
Right!! Vist is not on the computer at all. This is a desk top (Tower) computer. Yes this is a sata drive. I did get the setup disk from western digital for this hard drive because fdisk could not see that it is a 110 gig drive. I set the drive up with 5 partions and made c partion active, (the setup disk makes it active for you.) The reason for 5 partions is for some readson fdisk will go up to 48 gigs and not see the whole amount of space on the drive. When I do a check of the partions with fdisk I now see 5 hard drives, C is active and all 110 gigs of drive space are shown.
Thanks..
Bruce.

William_Wilson 08-23-2007 06:14 PM

ok, did some digging on the mobo and you have a pci express video slot, do you not?
To install XP with this type of video card you must install with XP SP2. You will need to call MS or find a friend who can manage to get you an install cd with SP2 already on it.
You can use another computer with your disk and do what is called "slipstream" to put sp2 onto the disc then burn a new copy, which should work with your old cd key. There is a free program which can do this called nLite.
MS may mail you a copy for a minimal shipping fee if you give them your information and situation.

seas54 08-23-2007 07:17 PM

Hi,
Ok, I do have the video card slot but I am using the onboard (built in) video.
I will try what you say and let you know.
Thanks..
Bruce

Delus1on 08-24-2007 10:10 AM

William,

Firstly a big thanks for writing the article :)

Secondly, I have a Dell XPS which originally came with XP Pro but I bought Vista Business a while ago and reformatted with that. I have also just installed XP on another partition and that loads fine.

The part where I'm stuck is section 3 where I type "Bootrec.exe fixMBR" and "Bootrec.exe fixBoot". The both appear to work although when I reboot it's not into Vista, it's still into XP Pro. Do you have any ideas as I've followed the rest of your script?

Many thanks in advance.

Best regards,

Andy

William_Wilson 08-24-2007 10:49 AM

try using the vista recovery console (i believe that is what it's called) instead of the command prompt and see if that does the trick. Vista should be putting it's bootloader into the MBR, but it seems like it is not. Let me know how you make out with this, and i will look into other options.
- what is your motherboard?
- what is partition setup on your hard drive?

Delus1on 08-24-2007 11:08 AM

Wow - thanks for the fast response William :)

I've actually sorted it now. The problem lied in bcdedit where my Vista installation was pointing to the same place as XP Pro. After first running "Bootrec.exe /fixBoot" and "Bootrec.exe /fixMBR" I immmediately ran bcdedit but I think I must have made a typo and edited the file in the wrong way.

I first tried the recovery console before discovering this and it found nothing wrong but I guess it wouldn't as as far as it was concerned it was booting up correctly.

I then booted up with the Vista CD again with a view reinstalling it, but the upgrade option (where I can keep all my files) is only available from within Windows!

I then booted one last time with the Vista CD to take one last look at bcdedit and it was then that I noticed the error. My file showed Vista in {default} not {current} which I thought was ok but it showed the path as /ntldr which I thought was wrong so I edited it again to change just the path. I guessed at the command "bcdedit –set {default} path \windows\system32\winload.exe" as I thought I had nothing to lose if it didn't work... Fortunately it did!

Thanks again for your help. It now works like a dream, all thanks to your article :)

Kind regards,

Andy

seas54 08-24-2007 11:18 AM

XP Pro onto T3604 E-Machine
 
Hi William
I did find nlite, used it to put SP2 onto a new Setup Disk with XP Pro and everything went great. XP installed with no problems!!! :happy:
I am very thankful for your time and help with this. You made my day!!!!
Thank You!!!!:icon_wink:
Bruce

dube6231 08-24-2007 03:18 PM

bcdedit problems
 
Hey William,

First off, thanks so much for writing this tutorial. I bought an hp pavilion with vista only because I knew I'd be able to dual boot from following your instructions.

I made it 3/4 of the way through your tutorial without a hitch, but now the bcdedit commands are throwing me for a loop.

I keep getting errors when trying to run the first bcdedit -set {ntldr} device partition=C: command

This is what i get, followed by my current bcdedit screen.


Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit -set {ntldr} device partition=C:
An error occurred while attempting to reference the specified entry.
The system cannot find the file specified.

C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=C:
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject {8c384824-6ff0-11db-8455-0016d303c84f}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Microsoft Windows Vista
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {572bcd55-ffa7-11d9-aae2-0007e994107d}
recoveryenabled Yes
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {8c384824-6ff0-11db-8455-0016d303c84f}
nx OptIn

C:\Windows\system32>


I know my vista partition is on the C drive, but it doesn't seem to recognize anything.

Any help will be greatly appreciated as I am ready to pull my hair out. Thanks.

- Pete

Mewmewmew 08-24-2007 05:08 PM

Acers? =x
 
Okay so like, uhm.
Has anyone gotten this to work on an Acer laptop? I have an...uh...Aspire 5633 or something.

I've tried another method of dual booting XP (with Vista in first) but it ended up in failure. I couldn't get back into Vista, so I ended up doing a restore.

So...any successes with Acers?

Unregistered 09-01-2007 03:51 PM

I I everything in step one but when I when to go install XP on the partition that I made for it XP is saying that I do not have any hard drives connected to the computer. I curently have 4 hard drives in my computer 2 of them are in raid 0 (this is vista) and 2 other drives with one of those being the one with the partition for XP. So I was wondering what would be making XP not register that I have hard drives attached then?

Thanks in advance,
James

Jario 09-02-2007 02:12 AM

Everything worked great up until step 4 for me. Then when I tried to edit the boot entries, the dreaded:
An error occurred while attempting to reference the specified entry.
The system cannot find the file specified.

I just used the EasyBCD and created the boot sequence from there. Much easier and no errors. Got dual boot! Thanks OP. Made my day.

William_Wilson 09-02-2007 06:58 AM

It's true that the boot record part isn't fool proof, as is seen through several comments. BCD is a great app, and i'm glad you got it working :)


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