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reeso 10-29-2006 08:46 AM

William - Is it possible to install Windows 98SE in a similar way?

bobo123 10-29-2006 08:35 PM

The first laptop i tried earlier in the month worked fine and ty. I've tried this on another laptop (fujitsu B-2131) and it goes through the file copy procedure perfect, but as soon as it restarts to continue the setup, it hangs after the bios screen with the error "ntldr is missing press any key to restart". Any input on this error would be greatly appreciated. thx

Shacobo 11-03-2006 11:49 PM

Worked great. I have the CSx and it was driving me crazy how to install XP. Thanks.

William_Wilson 11-13-2006 03:49 PM

It is a touchy thing the ntldr error, i've had it myself many times on both laptops and desktops alike. Usually the error is from a drive which is not properly setup as a primary. Thus the NT loader is not loading correctly as the drive is not meant to have an OS on it. there are many other reasons this could occur, but this has been my main issue, a simple complete format and ensuring the drive is primary seems to fix it in most cases.

murj 11-29-2006 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by William_Wilson (Post 4116)
If you have a cd drive in a second laptop (hex24) there is a simpler method. Simply place it in the laptop and format the drive, and start the install of XP, when you reach the first restart, hold the power button to stop the install from resuming after the restart, remove the hdd and place it in the correct laptop, and presto all settins will be installed for the correct laptop

I tryed this using xp pro. When i put it back in my laptop and started it up the hdd read for a second and then nothing. Nothing on display.

William_Wilson 11-30-2006 02:24 AM

if the drive is any good it should display something even if it's a ntdk file not found or a no OS, the bios should also be displayed... something else must be going on.

murj 11-30-2006 06:23 AM

well the drive worked fine, i tryed over and over till i gave up and tryed the slow way of using dos. Got it installing xp now. Thanks!

William_Wilson 12-05-2006 12:59 PM

glad to hear people are still willing to take the time to do it right! :)
Glad your laptop is up and running.

vir1980 12-07-2006 12:53 AM

Thank you for youre tutorial, the only think a needed was the ms-dos on cd because i didnt have a floppy drive in my laptop :happy:

mWMA 12-19-2006 09:17 PM

Slight modification of the method and no dual os.
My friend brought me a toshiba laptop to fix but it did not have dock with it so we had no DVDROM or floopy.
I installed XP on the laptop using method which is similar to yours but with a few steps which are different to removing Dual OS before the setup.

Here is what I did to get XP on it.
Required items:
98SE bootdisk
40-Pin to 44-pin 2.5 adaptor to connect HDD to working computer.

1) Connect Laptop HDD to desktop working system using the convertor. Format the HDD and create 2 partition. Recommend using FAT32 for both. Second partition does not need to big but will be used to store windows install files.
(for my friend 's 60GB HDD we did 30GB and 25GB partition)

2) Copy 98SE bootdisk files included hidden ones to primary partition. We also using XP 's disk manger and set this partition to be active.
Here is list of files incase you wonder which ones: config.sys drvspace.bin Himem.sys IO.sys ramdrive.sys msdos.sys should be more than enough. Rest can be ignored. You can also edit the config.sys with notepad and remove all entry except keeping the following
device=himem.sys /testmem:off
devicehigh=ramdrive.sys /E 2048

3) Copy smartdrv.exe, (usually located in to second smaller partition.

4) Copy the i386 folder of a XP CD to second partition. Also copy any apps, driver you may need for your laptop.
Note: I also added a winnt.sif file to the i386 directory and added unattended install information along with XP CD key to make it so that I don't have to sit during the install process.

5) Using a working desktop: Unplug any and all HDD from a system. plug only the Laptop HDD. insert the 98SE bootdisk into the floopy drive on the system.
Choose boot with CD-ROM support.
At the A: prompt type C: and verify all the bootfiles you copied earlier are there.
type A: to get back to A prompt.
type sys C:
Once system is copied. shutdown the box and remove the laptop hdd.

6) Plug laptop HDD back into laptop. Bootup and you will see C: prompt.
Type D: to access to second partition.
Type smartdrv
to make the process of copying faster.
Type format /Q C:
to format the C: drive and clean up the 98se stuff off it.
Type CD i386 to switch to windows files folder with all setup files.
Use the winnt.exe to start the setup.

For my friend I did
winnt /s:D:\i386 /u:winnt.sif /t:C:
/s is source where all setup files are.
/u:winnt.sif is the unattended command file
/t:C: is switch to tell setup to copy files to C: drive and install XP to C: drive.

XP setup should now copy files and you will not have deal with any DOS installation or dual OS issues. You can also convert to NTFS during the setup without any issue.

For those you don't use winnt.sif for unattended install. Here is small tip to help you pass some time during install.

Once you are 30min remaining into the install, you can start playing games like freecell or solitare to pass the time during the install.
Steps to running games during install
During XP setup do Shift+F10
You will get dos prompt
Type start freecell OR start sol OR start pinball
or use paint to do some drawing if you like.
Pinball is not ready until you have 13min remaining in setup.

Once you are XP install is done you can delete the files of the second partition if you like or keep em there for future.

Have a nice day.

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