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trywithme 10-15-2008 06:25 PM

how to boot or install new OS system by USB ports?
 
I have formatted my laptap to reinstall new OS XP, but the cd drive doesnt work when i insert the XP cd in, and I've tried to burn different OS disks to install but that doest work either, so my laptop is without anything even DOS.
So does anyone know how to boot it or install new OS system by USB ports?
Or how to install new OS on my laptop?
really appriciated

lurkswithin 10-16-2008 12:15 AM

First off, How did you reformat your harddrive?

If you used the USB drive that you wish to set up for the booting of the CD then you first must know that your computer supports such actions.

Check the system BIOS and see what is enabled/disabled as to the optics drive. In order for the CD to be read to reinstall the operating system the cd-rom must be set to be first boot choice if not , then you cannot set up the computer

b1caez01 10-16-2008 05:03 AM

Some suggestions...
 
1. download, install, utilize the MS-XP recovery diskettes...
How to obtain Windows XP Setup disks for a floppy boot installation
2. check your CD drive to see if it is set up to do what you want it to do. You already have had some good thoughts...check to see, especially if the CD drive is set up to burn disks...right click on drive, go down to properties, then up to the recording tab...be sure the appropriate stuff is filled in properly.
3. repeat #2 with the USB stick and port
4.You may also want to search the net for a bare bones version of XP [there are lots of them] which can be put on the USB stick and then have the system boot from there...OR...copy the XP install CD to the USB stick and go from there...

trywithme 10-16-2008 06:51 AM

thanks for ur reply lurkswithin
i formatted my harddrive by a program called Supper Fdisk 1.0 bootable
I think my laptop supports booting by USB drive, because on "boot order" says like support cd/dvd drive, usb hard drive, usb floppy, usb diskette on key.
My Bios version is F.11, processor is Genuine Intel T1350, and the cd is set to be the first boot choice, and like i have mention, the cd drive is not working properly, thats why i m looking for another way of reinstalling new OS

trywithme 10-16-2008 07:19 AM

hi b1caez01
i have tried to put the OS XP on my USB flash drive but that doesnt work, i dont know why, i think because my laptop dont have any OS such as DOS to run the files from USB drive, and the CD drive is unrealiable because it wouldnot run any XP disk, i have burned many different XP disks on another laptop and put in this one but the CD drive is not working.
Is there any way to reinstall XP apart from taking my harddisk out, and reinstall OS on another computer.

trywithme 10-16-2008 09:59 AM

i can run a portable windows on my USB drive, however, when i m in portable windowns platform, i can not run anything else such as boot, or setting up XP... any suggestion

lurkswithin 10-16-2008 05:26 PM

XP will not install to a USB Flash drive without some major registry editing.

I am still trying to figure why you didn't let the XP installation disc reformat and install windows XP at the same time. Why the Fdisc program? Were you having other issues to start with?

What EXACTLY does your CD-rom DO?

NOT DO?

If you can't get the drive to work then your next option is to get a hold of a USB cd-rom and use it to boot to and install the operating system.

You cannot install XP on one computer and use it on another on.

The other option would to play as if you have no CD or Floppy and follow Wiallams tutorial for installing the XP program. The link is on the side of this thread!

b1caez01 10-17-2008 12:05 AM

Try this...
 
Lurkswithin gives good advice...but we trolls never just take good advice, we do stupid stuff like keeping on searching... "XP will not install to a USB Flash drive without some major registry editing"

Check out the key word phrase "XP will not install to a USB Flash drive" in google there are quite a list of suggestions...

One of which is common...

SolutionBase: Boot Windows XP from a USB flash drive >>"You can't boot Windows XP from a floppy disk the way you used to be able to with DOS. One handy way to easily boot XP is by using a USB flash drive. Here's how to make it work." ..."Another utility that you are going to need is Bart's Preinstalled Environment Bootable Live Windows CD / DVD, or BartPE for short. You can download this utility for free from the BartPE Web site." ...found at Bart's Preinstalled Environment (BartPE) bootable live windows CD/DVD

If one does not work try another reference...good luck :icon_wink:

lurkswithin 10-17-2008 02:34 AM

You are right moron...you are a troll.

As usual all you wish to do is try to start trouble in a thread... so let me clarify something for you.

The OP misinterpreted your statement because as usual you are specifically unclear in your postings.

He refered to installing and trying to run XP from a USB flash drive.....which can be done with some major registry editing ...as I stated. He did not comprehend your inserting XP on a flash drive and using the flash drive to install windows to his computer. A process that will only work on IEDE/PATA drives and will not work with SATA drives

For that reason I do not recommend that the attempt be made as it will more than likely (99%) of the time prove to be futile and a total waste of a persons time.

To make it clear....booting is not the same as installing ... Search engines may show it in the same category simply because of morons like you that can't tell the difference of the two, so the search engines have to look at it in a dummies mindset and hope thay got it right to help the moron out!

But then again, that is what you like to do with your crap, isn't it. Waste mine and other peoples time when we have to correct your misinformation.

b1caez01 10-18-2008 02:40 AM

Taking my bat and ball and going home...good riddance
 
My apologies to the legitimate folks on board who respect the opinions of others, no matter how daft they may appear to be...and especially to the admin's of the fora, who are providing a great service. But since they cannot ban the likes of the Lurk-man and his ilk...this is no place for a gentleman. I have enjoyed my sojourn among you, even those who would be kings in their own kingdoms.

en garde mon ami :confused:

...is it that you were not nursed as a child and miss that comforting warm fuzziness-all-over-feeling...yup, must have been a bottled baby :tongue: You must have one heifer of a hemmoroid to be such a sour person all the time. And heaven help God when you arrive, if you arrive; you will probably berrate him/her for having a tilted halo :icon_wink: Get a freaking life and enjoy the ride.

It might be a suggestion, that you retire your ego from whatever it is that puts you in such a miserable mood all the time. This "my way or the highway" attitude of yours is boringly droll. You are the one who is butting in on nearly every stream, pontificating ad nauseum about how wonderful you are.

At least I'm an honest to goodness boob, admit it, and am proud of it :) You see, you need me. I don't need you. You are redundant. You need me, because as you are a bully, the likes of you can only get off in life by bullying others, who you perceive to be your lessors. Sure signs of an abused childhood. You probably kick kittens too :icon_twisted:

lurkswithin 10-18-2008 09:08 AM

Are you done little boy?

Your attempt at whatever is just about what I expected from the troll that you agree that you are....for those that don't know...a troll is a piece of garbage poster that continually tries to make trouble with others...this can be done blatantly or slyly as this troll tries to pull off.

The problem is that he could have chosen to just post his statement to the forum. But being the troll that he is, he had to make a jab at me.
Why he did this is simple. he is an idiot that believes himself to be some great beta tester and in which I placed him to be a fake using improper techniques to facilitate a misrepresentation of the facts. He projected an issue with a program to do things it was never meant to do nor was designed to do and then screamed that it was broken and needed to be repaired and claimed that he had fixed it...The program was never broke to begin with

He cried like a little baby then and ran away to sulk. Now he comes back tries it all over again. His pathetic attempt to take the high road with his apologizing first is so laughable I had tears in my eyes from it.

MORON...if you were half as sorry as you try to make everyone think you were, you would have just let it go and said nothing. All this proves is that you got what it was that you were really after to begin with....another chance to take a shot at me whooopie damn do...good for you!

This tirade of yours just shows you for what you are.

ggabriel 10-21-2008 04:21 AM

hey .... booting from a usb-stick is perfect possible , but we all do fergot something .... the stick most be on 'fat32 ' formated

lurkswithin 10-21-2008 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 12821)
hey .... booting from a usb-stick is perfect possible , but we all do fergot something .... the stick most be on 'fat32 ' formated

No one is saying that you can't boot from a USB flash drive.

You can not Install XP on the usb drive and have it work without some major registry editing...You can make the flash drive bootable and try to boot an older xp installation or you can use the bootable flash drive to build a type of slipstreamed install device instead of using a floppy or cd.....but the problem with this is that most systems that allow to boot to a USB drive use SATA controllers and you can't install the drivers of the controller in using the F6 method through a USB device....thus it becomes a waste of effort!

trywithme 10-21-2008 04:50 PM

sorry for not replying, i been busy at the weekend and my university...
my problem is solved on last friday when i found a solution on the Internet and i have booted my friend computer by using my memory stick, his computer cd driver couldnt run any Windows disc when i try to boot it up by the his computer cd drive.
Anyway, thanks very much who had give me an advise on my problem, every one here is so kind and helpful. that is what i want to let lurkswithin know, if you dont want to help, u can forget it, dont use such language to say, not really nice, and i m sorry if i am the reason that wasted anybody's time in here

ggabriel 10-22-2008 05:46 AM

MojoPac

the pretend the possebility ????

lurkswithin 10-22-2008 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 12838)
MojoPac

the pretend the possebility ????

Mojo Pac is nothing more than converting a regular flash drive into a U3 flash drive. A U3 flash drive allows for applications to be installed and ran from the flash drive. It does not allow for an operating system such as XP to be installed and ran from the flash drive.

All it does is allow the installed applications to be installed and ran.

Applications:
Desktop
office suites
games
music players and music files
clean-up utillities such as Ccleaner, ATFcleaner,

It will allow stand-a-lone operating systems such as Knoppix to be installed and ran but then you can install it to a CD and run it from there as well!

If you listen to the introduction it is careful to say applications and programs and games....not operating systems.

ggabriel 10-23-2008 04:16 AM

hey Lurkswithin
I only would say : they pretend....
there are other sites how pretend the same so how too take the right info ??
if you like I send the links ?? maybye this is a never ending story ??? :icon_wink:

lurkswithin 10-23-2008 12:36 PM

I will repeat what I have previously stated.

Windows XP can not be installed and operated from a removeable device without some major registry changes.

This is because of windows XP's main core being controlled by the redundancy checks of the hardware that is installed on the system...If there is no hardware...XP cannot run as an Operating System. this is especially true about USB devices because of the way XP handles USB protocols when booting....it wishes to re-takeover the USB that is being used to begin with as some systems that support boot-from-USB may do so either via hard drive emulation or floppy drive emulation by the USB device; but usually not both. If you try to use a USB drive that's emulating a hard drive, but your system only supports floppy-drive emulation (or vice versa), you may be out of luck.

This is the cause of the failure to be able to install third party SATA drivers thru the F6 method. Which is why I don't mention or reccomend using a USB device to install windows xp to a computer.....it is basically a waste of time if your computer has a SATA harddrive. (There are changes being made all the time and this will eventually be over come)

The only reason that USB can now be used at all is because of some programs that Microsoft designed and used in their server operating system and because of some application software ( BartPE) that has just recently came out. and can now be used to boot xp (installed on a computer) from a flash drive or use embedded applications on a flash drive to be able to repair XP installations on a computer.

What is being debated now is just moronic as hell.

The difference is in symantics. People read the term installed and automatically respond to it being related to the same terms as installation of the operating system. The term should be inserted and not installed, plus the fact that communication is being fore-shortened because of
1)texting
2) phonics
3) search engines criteria for providing the best results to a query...in that the word(s) are deliberately mispelled but will show the same results as a correctly spelled word and/or a search statement is mis-stated by omitting words or convergence of words or even substitutions of words to again achieve the same results.
Quote:

Check out the key word phrase "XP will not install to a USB Flash drive" in google there are quite a list of suggestions... (b1caez01)
A perfect example of what I was saying. as all the references of the google search is actually about the use of inserting XP into a usb flash drive and using the flash drive to install xp to a computer...similar to how one installs an operating system to a computer without the use of a floppy of CD drive.

This is not about installing and running xp from a usb drive

ggabriel 10-25-2008 10:30 AM

hey ....... don't be hurt plx ???
its always the same : I cane do it ....just till the moment you will gif it a shot ..... right ?? (sorry my english ) :icon_wink:

lurkswithin 10-25-2008 07:20 PM

Good for you! I am so glad that yours worked out!


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